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 Bentham - Seals still to be found.

 

The purpose of this page. There are probably as many seals to be found  at Bentham Mill as have already been found. Ged Dodd was not only an expert at identifying and finding the Russian flax bale seals but he was an expert at identifying the sites where they could be found. As well as the Bentham site he also found West House Mill Site (700 seals), The Little Patrick Mill site (434 seals) and Aked High Mill. Aked Mill only had 15 seals on it. There should have been hundreds and it took several months of searching to find where they had been buried. A mile away at Whinny Hill field, another 484 seals which had been transported from Aked Mill.

   Ged would analyse maps, the lay of the land, gossip and legend from local farmers and he found many minor but still important sites such as Folly Ghyll Twine Mill at Thornthwaite.

   However he couldn't win them all and West End Low Mill eluded him when they built Thruscross Reservoir and it vanished under the water.

   His last venture was Low Bentham Mill. He had permission to do all the land which used to belong to the mill but old age caught up with him after the first hunt and he had to stop detecting, or travelling. Now he is housebound, identifying Russian flax bale seals for detectorists on the PeaceHavensProject facebook page and yelling abuse at the TV media.

His analysis could inspire you to continue the hunt at Low Bentham.

Type and Date Analysis

Looking for the lost seals of Low Bentham Mill

Russian Flax & Hemp Bale Seal Type & Date Analysis for

Bentham Mill, Aked High Mill, Little Patrick Mill & West House Mill

 

1750 St George's Quay opens in Lancaster for the import of sugar, cotton, rum, mahogany &  the export of general merchandise & slaves to the colonies in North America & West Indies. In the late 18th and 19th century huge quantities of Russian flax plants were imported from Russia into a warehouse on St. George's Quay in Lancaster & transported in bales by "4-horse" drawn wagons to Bentham Mills.

  1787  Bentham Low Mill opens for flax production, using these sealed bales.

  1795  Bentham High Mill opens for flax production.

  1797 West House Mill at Blubberhouses opens for flax production.

  1883 The Linen trade in Bentham ends.

Conclusions:-

  Bentham Mill and West House Mill both opened up in the late 1790's ...

  Hundreds of seals have been found at West House from 1798, peaking in 1814 ...

  and both Little Patrick and Aked High Mill carried on for the next few years.

  West House had lots of Russian city customs tax seal (1809) and an abundance

  of crosslet seals. Bentham had no customs seals or circular dated (1815).

   Stands out like a sore thumb that only a handful of seals were found at Bentham

 for this period when there should have been hundreds..  but thousands were

 found after 1825...

  Therefore the fields with the early year Bentham Mill seals have yet to be found.

    So they are still out there. Go find them with my blessing. Good hunting.

         Ged Dodd,

             Project Director of the PeaceHavens Project

   The proof they are there is in the details of seals found in this table.

 

High Bentham Mill

 

West House Mill

 

Little Patrick Mill

 

Aked Whinny Hill

 

date

tax

flax

hemp

 

tax

flax

hemp

 

tax

flax

hemp

 

tax

flax

hemp

date

179?

NP

-

-

 

NP

7

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

179?

1796

NP

1

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1796

1797

NP

-

-

 

NP

1

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1797

1798

NP

-

-

 

NP

7

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1798

1799

NP

-

-

 

NP

13

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1799

18??

Arch

NP

SPB

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

Arch

NP

SPB

6

10

-

-

-

1

 

Arch

NP

SPB

-

23

-

-

-

-

 

Arch

NP

SPB

-

1

-

-

-

-

18??

1800

NP

-

-

 

NP

5

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1800

1801

NP

-

-

 

NP

4

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1801

1802

NP

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

16

1

-

-

 

NP

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

-

-

-

-

1802

1803

NP

Ю eye

1

-

-

 

NP

Ю eye

2

1

-

-

 

NP

Ю eye

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю eye

-

-

-

-

1803

1804

NP

Ю bell

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю bell

17

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю bell

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю bell

-

-

-

-

1804

1805

NP

Ю A

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю A

6

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю A

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю A

-

-

-

-

1805

1806

NP

Ю Б

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Б

Arch

4

-

1

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Б

Arch

3

1

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Б

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

1806

1807

NP

Ю B

Arch

SPB

-

-

6

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю B

Arch

SPB

5

2

-

-

-

-

-

1

 

NP

Ю B

Arch

SPB

-

1

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю B

Arch

SPB

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

1807

1808

NP

Ю Г

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Г

28

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Г

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Г

-

-

-

-

1808

1809

NP

Ю Д

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Д

Arch

40

6

12

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Д

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю Д

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

1809

1810

NP

Ю E

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю E

SPB

Arch

9

1

-

9

-

-

1

 

NP

Ю E

SPB

Arch

25

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Ю E

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

1810

181?

NP

-

-

 

NP

7

-

 

NP

27

-

 

NP

11

-

181?

                 

1811

NP

Arch

SPB

1

1

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

SPB

6

-

-

-

-

9

 

NP

Arch

SPB

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

SPB

-

-

-

-

-

-

1811

1812

NP

SPB

-

-

-

1

 

NP

SPB

1

-

-

1

 

NP

SPB

-

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

-

-

-

-

1812

1813

NP

Arch

1

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

11

1

-

-

 

NP

Arch

6

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

-

-

-

-

1813

1814

NP

SPB

Arch

-

-

 

NP

SPB

Arch

234

-

1

-

1

-

 

NP

SPB

Arch

8

-

-

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

1814

1815

NP

circ

-

-

-

-

 

NP

circ

15

4

-

-

 

NP

circ

1

1

-

-

 

NP

circ

-

-

-

-

1815

1816

NP

-

-

 

NP

3

-

 

NP

11

-

 

NP

3

-

1816

1817

NP

-

-

 

NP

12

-

 

NP

99

-

 

NP

178

-

1817

1818

NP

6

4

 

NP

4

-

 

NP

12

-

 

NP

47

-

1818

1819

NP

SPB

3

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

1

-

-

2

 

NP

SPB

29

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

150

-

-

-

1819

1820

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

149

-

 

NP

67

-

1820

182? NP 25 -   NP - -   NP - -   NP - - 182?

1821

NP

-

-

 

NP

1

-

 

NP

27

-

 

NP

11

-

1821

1822

NP

5

-

 

NP

2

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1822

1823

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

-

-

1823

1824

NP

SPB

1

-

-

1

 

NP

SPB

1

-

-

 

NP

SPB

4

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

4

-

-

-

1824

1825

NP

Arch

65

10

-

-

 

NP

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

17

-

-

-

 

NP

Arch

2

-

-

-

1825

1826

NP

276

-

 

NP

-

-

 

NP

5

-

 

NP

12

-

1826

1827

NP

SPB

19

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

-

-

-

1

 

NP

SPB

-

-

-

-

 

NP

SPB

4

-

-

-

1827

1828

NP

19

-

 

NP

1

-

 

NP

1

-

 

NP

-

-

1828

182?

SPB

СПБ

8

15

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

182?

1829

SPB

СПБ

Arch

СПБ

227

227

2

-

-

-

-

1

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

СПБ

3

23

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

1829

1830

СПБ

SPB

-

-

-

-

 

СПБ

SPB

-

-

-

-

 

СПБ

SPB

1

-

-

-

 

СПБ

SPB

1

1

-

-

1830

1831

SPB

СПБ

СПБ

94

79

-

-

-

1

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

3

3

2

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

СПБ

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

СПБ

-

-

-

-

-

-

1831

1832

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

1832

1833

SPB

СПБ

9

10

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

1

5

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

1833

1834

SPB

СПБ

18

27

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

1

1

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

1834

1835

SPB

СПБ

18

20

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

1

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

1

-

-

-

1835

1836

SPB

СПБ

27

22

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

1

-

-

-

1836

1837

SPB

СПБ

5

7

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

-

-

-

-

1837

1838

SPB

СПБ

Arch

2

1

-

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

3

3

1

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

-

1

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

СПБ

Arch

-

-

-

-

-

-

1838

1839

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1839

1840

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1840

                 

1841

SPB

Arch

-

4

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

1

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

1841

1842

SPB

Arch

-

2

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

2

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

1842

1843

SPB

Arch

-

3

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

1843

1844

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

1844

1845

SPB

Arch

-

1

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

-

-

-

-

1845

1846

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1846

1847

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1847

1848

SPB

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

-

1

 

SPB

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

 

SPB

Arch

СПБ

-

-

-

-

1848

1849

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1849

1850

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

 

SPB

-

-

1850
1851 Arch 1 -   Arch - -   Arch - -   Arch - - 1851
                                 
1883 Arch - 1   Arch - -   Arch - -   Arch - - 1883

 

It is importance to get permission to detect and make friends.
  Ged believes in the personal approach. Not long after being asked to detect a friend's fields at Bentham he was spotted by the next door neighbour, over the fence, and after a friendly chat he was asked to do their farm. This domino effect went on for eight years with Ged getting permission to do an area five miles long by a mile wide at Bentham and similar sized permissions at Blubberhouses and West End at Thruscross. He kept the owners up to date with the finds. Not one farmer in the whole of the Project's Detecting knew that they had seals on their land and were delighted to find out about the history.

   One has to be friends with everyone. The owner, of course, and also with all the farm hands, who spread the news of the latest discoveries on their land to all their fellow farmers of an evening down the pub, so when you actually meet these new farmers they already know about you. Especially make friends with the animals.

  Avoiding the bull is obvious but few people realise that most deaths to farmers are caused by rams, male sheep, at rutting time. I had one sheep at West House Mill who followed me around pulling up and chewing all my marker posts. Bullocks can be a problem, young heifers who prance around like teenage tearaways, and are all over you if you are not careful. Up at the Little Patrick Fields we would get them to follow Jackie Smith around while John Titchen and myself searched for seals, and kept an eye on her, of course.

   The most dangerous friend is a cow with a calf. She has no fear in defending her youngster, and as for a herd of the them, well, best come back later, and under no circumstances take a dog with you, just asking for trouble from farmer & beasts alike.

   There was a local farm dog called George at Bentham who would greet his friend Ged on every trip begging for biscuits. One day his begging from John failed to get a biscuit and George "peeded" on his rucksack in revenge. It was hilarious.

   Probably my most unusual friend at Bentham was Gerald the Lama who would bound over to greet me on sight, for the biscuits I carried, it wasn't my good looks.

   Lastly, the only value these lead seals have is the history stamped on them. Please record them with the PeaceHavens Project and get your name in the database.

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